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  Do you think there is an Omnipotent, Omniscient Being that lives forever and ever?

  by pistolpete in

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  notice that i left off "benevolent" .

  reason being is because i could argue that being all knowing and all powerful is not a prerequisite of being "good".

  yet i'm a firm believer that "something didn't come from nothing".

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  There is no such thing as an omnipotent or omniscient being, it is a logical impossibility - can an omnipotent/omniscient being make a stone it cannot lift itself, whether that answer is yes or no, by definition it can't be either omniscient or omnipotent, and that is provable with mathematics.

  Being omniscient (knowing all things) implies omnipotence (capable of all things) and vice versa, because an omniscient being would know how to become omnipotent and an omnipotent being could make itself omniscient, hence the terms itself are a bit of a tautology.

  Could there be beings that are much more evolved than us in this or other universes, yes, off course there CAN be. Would those beings know about us? Maybe, most likely it just looks at us the way we look at an ant.
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  Money for sell of KHs

  by asp59 in

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  has anybody seen a chart or documents abouth money they supposedly spending in africa building halls?

  as there selling millions worth of halls around the world.

  they claim it's for africa.

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  According to the latest stats, they've seen negative single and double digit decreases across Africa while having their losses relatively stabilized in the US.

  I think if they were rapidly spreading in Africa, there would've been more fanfare about it.
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  Poll: Atheists overwhelmingly oppose the death penalty, but most Christians favor it

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  see https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/06/16/poll-atheists-overwhelmingly-oppose-the-death-penalty-most-christians-favor-it/ .

  i am an atheist and i disapprove of the death penalty.

  i remember michael dukakis, when he was a usa presidential candidate, saying i he was opposed to the death penalty - even for rapists and murderers.

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  @slimboyfat

  It is better to prevent a violent crime in the first place than it is to punish it after it has occurred.

  That is correct, but that requires an increase in policing. And it’s impossible to have someone followed around, just in case, some people need to be involuntarily committed to some institution, which is the definition of a prison.

  The countries with fewest people in prison are the countries with the lowest rates of violent crime. The countries with the highest number of inmates are the countries with the highest rates of violent crime.

  That is incorrect. The US has the highest number of inmates (600/100,000) and has among the lowest rates of crime (381 per 100,000), Scandinavia is the exact opposite with Denmark having one of the lowest inmate populations (72/100k) and one of the highest rates of reported crime in the world (10500/100k). Not only that but the feeling of being unsafe and unreported crime is immensely high in the Scandinavian countries.

  The problem with crime statistics in Europe however is that if the perpetrator is not found to be guilty, for much of the property crime the EU does not pursue or report it as a crime. Thus lower sentencing guidelines leads to fewer reported crime, not because it doesn’t happen, but because it doesn’t get reported by the police as being a crime. Similar to how in California, crime rates dropped after they declared stealing less than $950 is not a crime, weird how that works.

  Prisons don’t prevent violent crime they make the problem worse.

  The stats don’t bear it out, at least not for western countries.
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  JWs don't have any problems

  by neat blue dog in

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  they never get disgruntled and leave, they never abuse children, they never sleep around or steal.

  because if they were a true jehovah's witness they wouldn't do that, and if they do something wasn't right with them to begin with.

  anybody else heard this "logic"?

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  Yes, it's the no true scotsman fallacy.
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  GB and North Korea same opinion about outfit style!

  by Gorb in

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  the same governing style:.

  https://metro.co.uk/2021/05/15/fears-mullets-and-skinny-jeans-will-tear-north-korea-down-like-a-damp-wall-14587354/.

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  So no tight pants in North Korea either?
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  Unnoticed 2018 merger in Qubec

  by Corney in

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  three years ago, on september 1 - 4, 2018, watch tower society of quebec (la tour de garde, société de bibles et de traités du québec), finalised its merger ("voluntary amlgamation") with "123 incorporated congregations of jehovah's witnesses in quebec," with kingdom halls owned by these incorporated congregations (total book value - ca$114,390,856, or 92 million usd) becoming assets of the society.

  quebec congregations continue to exist as unincorporated associations and registered charities, while wt quebec only "manages, maintains and constructs" khs ("in cooperation with" wt canada and jw congregation support (formerly regional building committee)) and appoints certain elders to officiate marriages in the province.. sources: .

  https://apps.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/hacc/srch/pub/dsplybscsrch .

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  @stephane: they only merged the legal entities of the physical properties, the actual congregations are still individual “independent” entities, except now they don’t have property to seize.

  They did this a while back in the US as well, with the FDS being its own legal entity responsible for the dissemination of spiritual food and then the WTBTS having its own legal structure that owns the buildings and the printing presses. They did the same trick for Kingdom Halls, splitting the legal structure between the “KH building committee” often with its own chairman/secretary/treasury structure and the individual congregations that meet there having their own legal entity.

  They have used this structure to defend them (successful) from legal suits, as the WTBTS claims no control over the FDS and the FDS being untouchable without any assets under 1st amendment religious freedom doctrine.
  
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  Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

  by joey jojo in

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  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/sa-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-proposal-rejected/100228038.

  so this religion is a hoax?.

  it seems just as legit as another religion i can think of..

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  @joey: the interpretation of those justices is very narrow, wouldn’t even pass muster in the US Supreme Court.

  Looking further into this particular case: the decision was made because the reviewer found the viewpoints of the church to be ... rrrrrrrrrrr ... yes... rrrrrrrrrrr.... racist and sexist. Thus if it is a religion that does not conform to critical race and gender theory, it is not a valid religion in Australia.
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  Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

  by joey jojo in

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  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/sa-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-proposal-rejected/100228038.

  so this religion is a hoax?.

  it seems just as legit as another religion i can think of..

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  The question is how/why can the Australian government decide that the tenets of a religion are a hoax or not. By the purest of interpretations, any religion can be considered a hoax.

  The First Amendment in the US prevents the government from interpreting or interfering with religious texts. I guess Australia doesn't have free speech or freedom of religion.
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  Poll: Atheists overwhelmingly oppose the death penalty, but most Christians favor it

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  see https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/06/16/poll-atheists-overwhelmingly-oppose-the-death-penalty-most-christians-favor-it/ .

  i am an atheist and i disapprove of the death penalty.

  i remember michael dukakis, when he was a usa presidential candidate, saying i he was opposed to the death penalty - even for rapists and murderers.

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  I used to be against it, because I thought most people can be redeemed. Then I got older and wiser. Some people are just evil and their only goal in life is to destroy others too, I think it has to be carefully considered, but if the evidence is overwhelming and it wasn't a mistake or accident and the person is considered a threat to society, the death penalty is cheaper than keeping them alive. Think of people like Osama Bin Laden, Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy, there is nothing you can do to redeem them, the death penalty also shouldn't be so humane, a firing squad is sufficient in those cases.

  I'm an atheist libertarian, but I don't think that matters, I think most people change their views as they get older. Similar why many older people are religious, the current spate of old people were hippies and atheists and communists in the 70s, yet now the majority of the elderly are conservative christians, it's not like all the hippies died, they got older, a real job and had their own children forcing them to become wiser.

  I see why too, I believed all religion was bad, but there are definitely long term benefits to having a religious community and even religious rituals.
  
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  The Governing Body like todays Democraps

  by mickbobcat in

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  the governing body is a lot like today's dems.

  they want to keep the rank and file in a permanent dependent state.

  keep them stupid and dependent and they can rule them forever.

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  I think in Korea it's more obvious, they don't even try to hide it, so NK would be more like Scientology. I think the JW is more on par with China or Soviet Russia, which is very similar to the woke cults in the US today.